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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://lauraraeamos.com/2009/11/23/progress-report-thou-shalt-not-use-second-person/comment-page-1/#comment-18104</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Vildea,&lt;/b&gt; ah-ha, thank you!  I think that&#039;s the missing piece I needed.  And I think my hubby also mentioned something along similar lines last night - that just because *I* enjoy being thrust into the 2nd person character, it doesn&#039;t change the fact that most people don&#039;t.  Most people don&#039;t have the desire and/or the capacity to take on that role, like an actor almost, and maybe most people are into stories for the &quot;escape&quot; rather than the &quot;experience&quot;.  So when a 2nd person story works for me, it probably wouldn&#039;t for a lot of people.

I agree, the question being does it make the story stronger?  And is it worth the risk of putting off people in the process, knowing that so many people don&#039;t like it?  

I liked it because it was interesting (for me) - but for someone like you, from what you&#039;ve said, it probably would be quite upsetting.  It *is* an upsetting story.  So I guess that&#039;s where the first/third person &quot;character&quot; buffer comes into play, so you can read about &quot;this other person&quot; being upset, who is clearly not you. 

I think I&#039;ll try to flip it into first person and see how that feels instead.  

Good stuff!  I think I get it now.  You guys are brilliant!  How would I do my job without you? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Vildea,</b> ah-ha, thank you!  I think that&#8217;s the missing piece I needed.  And I think my hubby also mentioned something along similar lines last night &#8211; that just because *I* enjoy being thrust into the 2nd person character, it doesn&#8217;t change the fact that most people don&#8217;t.  Most people don&#8217;t have the desire and/or the capacity to take on that role, like an actor almost, and maybe most people are into stories for the &#8220;escape&#8221; rather than the &#8220;experience&#8221;.  So when a 2nd person story works for me, it probably wouldn&#8217;t for a lot of people.</p>
<p>I agree, the question being does it make the story stronger?  And is it worth the risk of putting off people in the process, knowing that so many people don&#8217;t like it?  </p>
<p>I liked it because it was interesting (for me) &#8211; but for someone like you, from what you&#8217;ve said, it probably would be quite upsetting.  It *is* an upsetting story.  So I guess that&#8217;s where the first/third person &#8220;character&#8221; buffer comes into play, so you can read about &#8220;this other person&#8221; being upset, who is clearly not you. </p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ll try to flip it into first person and see how that feels instead.  </p>
<p>Good stuff!  I think I get it now.  You guys are brilliant!  How would I do my job without you? <img src='http://lauraraeamos.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Vildea</title>
		<link>http://lauraraeamos.com/2009/11/23/progress-report-thou-shalt-not-use-second-person/comment-page-1/#comment-18103</link>
		<dc:creator>Vildea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Laura :) I&#039;ve been following your blog quite a bit (can&#039;t help it, writers blogs intrigue me greatly :P) but commenting has been sparse due to something called exams. It really should be illegal.

Anyway, my beef with second person narrative? Heh, it stems from a rather embarrassing thing called &quot;Quzilla&quot; which had a lot of stories which I&#039;m certain are a lot like &quot;choose your adventure&quot; type stories (never read one, we don&#039;t actually have any of that here, huh...)

My other beef with second story narration? -I- don&#039;t like doing stuff. Makes no sense, but bare with me, -I- don&#039;t like being pushed, hugged, talked to or otherwise interacted with while I&#039;m reading. It sort of feels like a stranger stepping out of nowhere and telling me I&#039;m the love of his life... Creepy much? (Now, your story could be horror (which would be -worse-, people trying to -kill- me? Geez, thanks Laura!) or it could be tragedy (lovely, just lovely...) or just real life (I might not mind being made rich so much...) That&#039;s generally how I experience reading second person narrative stories. A lot of them (including a few from Quzilla) are brilliant.

But that doesn&#039;t make me feel less awkward about being abruptly kissed/pushed/killed/tortured/you name it by a stranger xD It might not be the best of reasons, but that generally why I&#039;m wary about reading stories using that particular tense, but then I don&#039;t really have the best experience with them either. 

In the end, I suppose the best question to ask is; do you feel that your story is made stronger with second person narrative(and explain to yourself why it does)? Because if you do, then don&#039;t change it. 

Walks - I really should do more of them, since it&#039;s the perfect weather for it (well, it&#039;s the perfect weather for -me-, I like rain, cold and darkness) but I&#039;ve no one to walk with so my motivation is currently living it up in Hong-Kong I think.

Okay, I&#039;m off to do &quot;there&#039;s-ten-days-until-my-next-exam-and-I-have-today-and-tomorrow-off-to-do-other-stuff&quot; type things :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Laura <img src='http://lauraraeamos.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;ve been following your blog quite a bit (can&#8217;t help it, writers blogs intrigue me greatly <img src='http://lauraraeamos.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> ) but commenting has been sparse due to something called exams. It really should be illegal.</p>
<p>Anyway, my beef with second person narrative? Heh, it stems from a rather embarrassing thing called &#8220;Quzilla&#8221; which had a lot of stories which I&#8217;m certain are a lot like &#8220;choose your adventure&#8221; type stories (never read one, we don&#8217;t actually have any of that here, huh&#8230;)</p>
<p>My other beef with second story narration? -I- don&#8217;t like doing stuff. Makes no sense, but bare with me, -I- don&#8217;t like being pushed, hugged, talked to or otherwise interacted with while I&#8217;m reading. It sort of feels like a stranger stepping out of nowhere and telling me I&#8217;m the love of his life&#8230; Creepy much? (Now, your story could be horror (which would be -worse-, people trying to -kill- me? Geez, thanks Laura!) or it could be tragedy (lovely, just lovely&#8230;) or just real life (I might not mind being made rich so much&#8230;) That&#8217;s generally how I experience reading second person narrative stories. A lot of them (including a few from Quzilla) are brilliant.</p>
<p>But that doesn&#8217;t make me feel less awkward about being abruptly kissed/pushed/killed/tortured/you name it by a stranger xD It might not be the best of reasons, but that generally why I&#8217;m wary about reading stories using that particular tense, but then I don&#8217;t really have the best experience with them either. </p>
<p>In the end, I suppose the best question to ask is; do you feel that your story is made stronger with second person narrative(and explain to yourself why it does)? Because if you do, then don&#8217;t change it. </p>
<p>Walks &#8211; I really should do more of them, since it&#8217;s the perfect weather for it (well, it&#8217;s the perfect weather for -me-, I like rain, cold and darkness) but I&#8217;ve no one to walk with so my motivation is currently living it up in Hong-Kong I think.</p>
<p>Okay, I&#8217;m off to do &#8220;there&#8217;s-ten-days-until-my-next-exam-and-I-have-today-and-tomorrow-off-to-do-other-stuff&#8221; type things <img src='http://lauraraeamos.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://lauraraeamos.com/2009/11/23/progress-report-thou-shalt-not-use-second-person/comment-page-1/#comment-18102</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Lunar,&lt;/b&gt; lol, choose your own adventure.  Then hubby reminded me last night that 2nd person is also used a lot in advertising and spiritual writing, lol!

Thanks for offering to read - I&#039;m going to poke at it for a minute (or a day?), and then I&#039;ll email you.

And you know, now that I think about it, I never ever write anything in order - not a novel, not a short story, not a LH story, not a blog entry, not even this comment!

&lt;b&gt;Steph,&lt;/b&gt; thanks for your two cents!  I&#039;m just trying to understand why people dislike it so much, since it appears I&#039;m one of the few who don&#039;t mind it ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Lunar,</b> lol, choose your own adventure.  Then hubby reminded me last night that 2nd person is also used a lot in advertising and spiritual writing, lol!</p>
<p>Thanks for offering to read &#8211; I&#8217;m going to poke at it for a minute (or a day?), and then I&#8217;ll email you.</p>
<p>And you know, now that I think about it, I never ever write anything in order &#8211; not a novel, not a short story, not a LH story, not a blog entry, not even this comment!</p>
<p><b>Steph,</b> thanks for your two cents!  I&#8217;m just trying to understand why people dislike it so much, since it appears I&#8217;m one of the few who don&#8217;t mind it <img src='http://lauraraeamos.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Steph</title>
		<link>http://lauraraeamos.com/2009/11/23/progress-report-thou-shalt-not-use-second-person/comment-page-1/#comment-18100</link>
		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am actually not a huge fan of 2nd person narrative. I think it really really has to make sense for it to be used. Otherwise it is just dramatic for the purpose of bandaging the fact that a story itself lacks drama. That&#039;s my little two cents, anyway...but I haven&#039;t read your story so I can&#039;t really comment on whether it works or not in your case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am actually not a huge fan of 2nd person narrative. I think it really really has to make sense for it to be used. Otherwise it is just dramatic for the purpose of bandaging the fact that a story itself lacks drama. That&#8217;s my little two cents, anyway&#8230;but I haven&#8217;t read your story so I can&#8217;t really comment on whether it works or not in your case.</p>
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		<title>By: TheLunarFox</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheLunarFox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to ask you if you had another place to send the story out to.  Stand by your choice!  I have found a lot of dislike for the second person narrative.  It seems to be looked down upon for anything other than &quot;choose your own adventure&quot; books.  But if anyone can use it and use it well, you could.

I wouldn&#039;t mind taking a peek at your short story.


lol at the written novel chapters done.  That&#039;s great.  Do you normally prefer to write things in order if it will let you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to ask you if you had another place to send the story out to.  Stand by your choice!  I have found a lot of dislike for the second person narrative.  It seems to be looked down upon for anything other than &#8220;choose your own adventure&#8221; books.  But if anyone can use it and use it well, you could.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t mind taking a peek at your short story.</p>
<p>lol at the written novel chapters done.  That&#8217;s great.  Do you normally prefer to write things in order if it will let you?</p>
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